Comments on: July 2008 LHC End of the Universe Puts http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm We dividend our ad money to you. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:04:13 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: LHC http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-95017 LHC Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:39:58 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-95017 I think there are no reason to care about end of the world. The maximum what can happen its complite annihilation of France and Switzerland and global Ice Age after it! For security reason I suggest to the civilians in the location of this machine to leave this place at time of experiment, and the people who do this experiments to warn those people before machine start to go on full power - for them to pray! And this will never happen, because its stupid as a fact... Live such long time by creating such long history of human race and to reach the final step its destroying of all(except of correcting), for Nova World!??? I think God have a lot of places in his\she's hands to create New Worlds, or you think we dont like them because a lot of porn in internet!? OK... For example, the God is hate the porno, but why he is create them? K.O. Have Nice Day, France and Switzerland! ;-) I think there are no reason to care about end of the world. The maximum what can happen its complite annihilation of France and Switzerland and global Ice Age after it!

For security reason I suggest to the civilians in the location of this machine to leave this place at time of experiment, and the people who do this experiments to warn those people before machine start to go on full power – for them to pray!

And this will never happen, because its stupid as a fact… Live such long time by creating such long history of human race and to reach the final step its destroying of all(except of correcting), for Nova World!??? I think God have a lot of places in his\she’s hands to create New Worlds, or you think we dont like them because a lot of porn in internet!? OK… For example, the God is hate the porno, but why he is create them?

K.O. Have Nice Day, France and Switzerland! ;-)

]]> By: JTankers http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-90258 JTankers Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:50:31 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-90258 $20 options, will have to investigate. Sounds similar to the Lloyds of London insurance policy taken out to cover 'world destruction'. I suppose the Insurance company just keeps the payout tied up in court for a decade or so if they lose (to avoid payout.) See what <b>2001 Physics Nobel Laureates</b> Dr. Cornell and Dr. Wiesman say about the possibility of micro black hole creation from a Bose-Einstein Condensate bosenova implosion (Dr. Cornell, diplomatically) “<i>probably not a black hole, more likely…</i>“, and (Dr. Wieman more bluntly) “<i>I can state ABSOLUTELY CATEGORICALLY that it is totally inconceivable</i>" then compare that with what <b>MIT Physicists</b> appears to be predicting in their papers. "<i>We verify that the picture presented by Ueda and Huang is correct. For N > Nc , a “black-hole” does appear at the center of the trap</i>" Appear to be very different predictions. Waiting for better clarification... Details at <a href="http://www.lhcfacts.org/?cat=19" rel="nofollow">LHCFacts.org -> Collider Incidents</a> JTankers <a href="http://www.LHCFacts.org" rel="nofollow">LHCFacts.org</a> $20 options, will have to investigate. Sounds similar to the Lloyds of London insurance policy taken out to cover ‘world destruction’. I suppose the Insurance company just keeps the payout tied up in court for a decade or so if they lose (to avoid payout.)

See what 2001 Physics Nobel Laureates Dr. Cornell and Dr. Wiesman say about the possibility of micro black hole creation from a Bose-Einstein Condensate bosenova implosion (Dr. Cornell, diplomatically) “probably not a black hole, more likely…“, and (Dr. Wieman more bluntly) “I can state ABSOLUTELY CATEGORICALLY that it is totally inconceivable” then compare that with what MIT Physicists appears to be predicting in their papers. “We verify that the picture presented by Ueda and Huang is correct. For N > Nc , a “black-hole” does appear at the center of the trap”

Appear to be very different predictions. Waiting for better clarification…

Details at LHCFacts.org -> Collider Incidents

JTankers
LHCFacts.org

]]> By: unintelligent http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-83422 unintelligent Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:39:00 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-83422 Do you have any EOW puts with Jan 09 expiration? Might take the LHC labrats a few months to get a good black hole going. Nothing ever happens on schedule. Do you have any EOW puts with Jan 09 expiration? Might take the LHC labrats a few months to get a good black hole going. Nothing ever happens on schedule.

]]> By: Mr Juggles http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82821 Mr Juggles Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:09:14 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82821 Felipe Fuches- I assure you, we take everything the right way, which is one of the reasons we are in the top Lipper quartile for three year performance in our space. Felipe Fuches-

I assure you, we take everything the right way, which is one of the reasons we are in the top Lipper quartile for three year performance in our space.

]]> By: Felipe Fuches http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82801 Felipe Fuches Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:57:50 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82801 Dear Mr. Juggles, Please don't take me wrong. I wasn't questioning your post or the blog (which I really like, by the way). What I said is that the bunch of people speaking about the destruction of the planet caused by the LHC is really bad, since it is causing a massive hysteria among the less informed of us. Nevertheless, you have a very nice profit option here. Regards. Dear Mr. Juggles,

Please don’t take me wrong. I wasn’t questioning your post or the blog (which I really like, by the way). What I said is that the bunch of people speaking about the destruction of the planet caused by the LHC is really bad, since it is causing a massive hysteria among the less informed of us. Nevertheless, you have a very nice profit option here.

Regards.

]]> By: nick gogerty http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82789 nick gogerty Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:37:28 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82789 do MBIA & Ambac still get AAA ratings if they fall into the event horizon. My guess is Moody's and S&P will claim hawking radiation allows enough data about their portfolios to escape. Fitch will just downgrade ;) do MBIA & Ambac still get AAA ratings if they fall into the event horizon. My guess is Moody’s and S&P will claim hawking radiation allows enough data about their portfolios to escape. Fitch will just downgrade ;)

]]> By: jag http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82768 jag Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:18:21 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82768 Sweet, I am going to put all of my grandma's savings into this product. This is a cash equivalent with 'AAA' rating, right? Sweet, I am going to put all of my grandma’s savings into this product. This is a cash equivalent with ‘AAA’ rating, right?

]]> By: amtann http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82751 amtann Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:42:23 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82751 Is one contract 100 or 1000? How many will fit on a railcar? Do I need to open a trading account with Long or Short, or may I use PayPal? Is one contract 100 or 1000? How many will fit on a railcar?

Do I need to open a trading account with Long or Short, or may I use PayPal?

]]> By: HF http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82750 HF Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:03:18 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82750 I am curently selling a structured product linked to the leverage performance (300% leverage to be precise) of a worst off put. It works like this: 3 x min( end of the world put; the risk of spending all the money you have because you think the world is going to end) it also includes a binary put that covers the risk the world won't end, in that case it will pay Euribor - 5%.. I am curently selling a structured product linked to the leverage performance (300% leverage to be precise) of a worst off put. It works like this:

3 x min( end of the world put; the risk of spending all the money you have because you think the world is going to end) it also includes a binary put that covers the risk the world won’t end, in that case it will pay Euribor – 5%..

]]> By: The Dryer http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82720 The Dryer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:56:43 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82720 Totally reassured. Thanks Juggles. Long me 500 July expiry @ $20. Totally reassured. Thanks Juggles. Long me 500 July expiry @ $20.

]]> By: soonindallas http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82719 soonindallas Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:55:18 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82719 Notice the timeline of the article initially referring to the 'end of the universe fears' (it's in DD/MM/YYYY format): 'Big Bang' machine could destroy the planet, says lawsuit By Tom Leonard in New York Last Updated: 12:01am BST 01/04/2008 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/04/01/scibang101.xml Notice the timeline of the article initially referring to the ‘end of the universe fears’ (it’s in DD/MM/YYYY format):

‘Big Bang’ machine could destroy the planet, says lawsuit

By Tom Leonard in New York
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 01/04/2008

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/04/01/scibang101.xml

]]> By: Mr Juggles http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82718 Mr Juggles Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:41:44 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82718 We have purchased adequate insurance to cover any concerns about counterparty risk. Everything is above board and should work swimmingly. We have the most advanced risk management techniques and practices in our space. We have purchased adequate insurance to cover any concerns about counterparty risk. Everything is above board and should work swimmingly. We have the most advanced risk management techniques and practices in our space.

]]> By: The Dryer http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82717 The Dryer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:24:00 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82717 Am I the only one that sees massive counter-party risk in the event my option goes in the money and all humanity goes out the living? Am I the only one that sees massive counter-party risk in the event my option goes in the money and all humanity goes out the living?

]]> By: Mr Juggles http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82716 Mr Juggles Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:19 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82716 I think it is quite sad that the world keeps talking about Long or Short Capital opening the gates of hell or something like that. More than that, if someone have no idea of what this site is about, they should not speak of it so carelessly. People really believe these kind of absurd statements. Even though we always generate some good profit opportunities, the misinformation set by that earlier comment is really worrying me. I think it is quite sad that the world keeps talking about Long or Short Capital opening the gates of hell or something like that. More than that, if someone have no idea of what this site is about, they should not speak of it so carelessly. People really believe these kind of absurd statements. Even though we always generate some good profit opportunities, the misinformation set by that earlier comment is really worrying me.

]]> By: krapital http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82710 krapital Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:17:40 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82710 i guess the expiry date on these options are known as the end of the world? hows the delta on these options anyways? i guess the expiry date on these options are known as the end of the world?

hows the delta on these options anyways?

]]> By: Felipe Fuches http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82696 Felipe Fuches Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:20:47 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82696 I think it is quite sad that the world keeps talking about the LHC opening the gates of hell or something like that. More than that, if someone have no idea of what this equipment is capable should not speak of it so carelessly. People really believe these kind of absurd statement. Even generating some good profit opportunities, the misinformation set by this discussion is really worrying me. Just a thought. I think it is quite sad that the world keeps talking about the LHC opening the gates of hell or something like that. More than that, if someone have no idea of what this equipment is capable should not speak of it so carelessly. People really believe these kind of absurd statement. Even generating some good profit opportunities, the misinformation set by this discussion is really worrying me.

Just a thought.

]]> By: Random Banker http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82695 Random Banker Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:15:49 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82695 Debacle: The real issue is why wasn't the collider built in the states? Our lack of investment in our technological innovation and the education of our nation's children is going to doom American business to also-ran status. SHORT American Innovation Debacle:

The real issue is why wasn’t the collider built in the states? Our lack of investment in our technological innovation and the education of our nation’s children is going to doom American business to also-ran status.

SHORT American Innovation

]]> By: Anal_yst http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82651 Anal_yst Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:55:07 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82651 How do you forsee these options performing in the event of a multiple-universe environment? Can they both be in- and out-of the money simultaneously? If the options observe quantum uncertainty, how can an investor measure the value of the option without affecting that very value? How do you forsee these options performing in the event of a multiple-universe environment? Can they both be in- and out-of the money simultaneously? If the options observe quantum uncertainty, how can an investor measure the value of the option without affecting that very value?

]]> By: Tom L http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82642 Tom L Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:01:59 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82642 I'm interested in helping making a market in these if you're open to it, but my risk manager has so far vetoed it. I haven't found a good way to hedge them. I thought maybe quantum-delta, but it requires me to collide particles faster and faster as the event horizon approaches and our firm doesn't have the capital to secure the required energy sources. Do you have any ideas here? I’m interested in helping making a market in these if you’re open to it, but my risk manager has so far vetoed it. I haven’t found a good way to hedge them. I thought maybe quantum-delta, but it requires me to collide particles faster and faster as the event horizon approaches and our firm doesn’t have the capital to secure the required energy sources. Do you have any ideas here?

]]> By: Mr Juggles http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82636 Mr Juggles Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:31 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82636 I'd have to check JD's work, but I assume it's using Perf. I’d have to check JD’s work, but I assume it’s using Perf.

]]> By: HF http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82635 HF Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:00:32 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82635 The end of the world must be a very volatile event, so I would probably buy a stradle... Also when I use the Black-Holes with my ARCHEW (Autoregressive conditional heteroskedastic end of the world)volatility model indicates that the correct price for that option is not $20 but only $15... what vol is your model pricing? The end of the world must be a very volatile event, so I would probably buy a stradle…
Also when I use the Black-Holes with my ARCHEW (Autoregressive conditional heteroskedastic end of the world)volatility model indicates that the correct price for that option is not $20 but only $15… what vol is your model pricing?

]]> By: american bandersnatch http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82634 american bandersnatch Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:36:44 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82634 I used the black holes pricing model rather than the black sholes model. Unfortunately, there was trouble with Maximillian Schell and a robot and all data was lost. I used the black holes pricing model rather than the black sholes model. Unfortunately, there was trouble with Maximillian Schell and a robot and all data was lost.

]]> By: unintelligent http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82633 unintelligent Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:35:05 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82633 (oops I missed that sentence) (oops I missed that sentence)

]]> By: unintelligent http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82632 unintelligent Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:31:14 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82632 What"s the strike? What”s the strike?

]]> By: Sir Charge http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82631 Sir Charge Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:29:26 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82631 These being only European options. These being only European options.

]]> By: PDB http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm/comment-page-1#comment-82630 PDB Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:25:38 +0000 http://longorshortcapital.com/20-july-2008-lhc-end-of-the-universe-puts.htm#comment-82630 SOLD! Come and get em boys! SOLD! Come and get em boys!

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