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	<title>Comments on: Cerberus: Den of Mini-Ballers or of Satan?</title>
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		<title>By: hps</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37753</link>
		<dc:creator>hps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyco spun off Tyco Electronics, so some of the options trade as a package of TYC &amp; TEL:
  
TYB/TYU/XML/KMO are adjusted TYC/TYE/VPA/
  options and have 25 shares of TYC equity
  COV equity + 25 shares of TEL equity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyco spun off Tyco Electronics, so some of the options trade as a package of TYC &amp; TEL:</p>
<p>TYB/TYU/XML/KMO are adjusted TYC/TYE/VPA/<br />
  options and have 25 shares of TYC equity<br />
  COV equity + 25 shares of TEL equity.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Juggles</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37742</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Juggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude was/is a tout.  He has been edited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude was/is a tout.  He has been edited.</p>
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		<title>By: nm</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37739</link>
		<dc:creator>nm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be that they trade ex-exercise, so that you can&#039;t profit... Afaik you need to mention it some days prior to the last trading date if you want to exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be that they trade ex-exercise, so that you can&#8217;t profit&#8230; Afaik you need to mention it some days prior to the last trading date if you want to exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: cmsd2</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37737</link>
		<dc:creator>cmsd2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>100 option contracts are worth 1 share perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100 option contracts are worth 1 share perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: nm</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37736</link>
		<dc:creator>nm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding 1) and 2), I checked the data on BB about 1h ago and it&#039;s identical. Don&#039;t know about 3) though (market maker?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding 1) and 2), I checked the data on BB about 1h ago and it&#8217;s identical. Don&#8217;t know about 3) though (market maker?).</p>
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		<title>By: cmsd2</title>
		<link>http://longorshortcapital.com/cerberus-den-of-mini-ballers-or-of-satan.htm/comment-page-1#comment-37724</link>
		<dc:creator>cmsd2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re TYCO options:

Ah but as the great contemporary philsopher Will Young said: &quot;Think about it&quot;.

You made the following cardinal mistakes:
1) using yahoo as a source of fact
2) using a quote which is 9 days old
3) relying on the pricing info when the volumes have been close to 0 across the entire option chain

The intrinsic value of the 30$ option (if parity is 1) is almost exactly 15 bucks, and there&#039;s almost no time value left since there are only 2 days to maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re TYCO options:</p>
<p>Ah but as the great contemporary philsopher Will Young said: &#8220;Think about it&#8221;.</p>
<p>You made the following cardinal mistakes:<br />
1) using yahoo as a source of fact<br />
2) using a quote which is 9 days old<br />
3) relying on the pricing info when the volumes have been close to 0 across the entire option chain</p>
<p>The intrinsic value of the 30$ option (if parity is 1) is almost exactly 15 bucks, and there&#8217;s almost no time value left since there are only 2 days to maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: IEVT</title>
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		<dc:creator>IEVT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very interesting suggestion for your readers. It&#039;s about the 07&#039; august puts of TYCO (NYSE: TYC) which are very very mispriced: I don&#039;t have much money to buy them, but I think it&#039;s a great deal... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very interesting suggestion for your readers. It&#8217;s about the 07&#8242; august puts of TYCO (NYSE: TYC) which are very very mispriced: I don&#8217;t have much money to buy them, but I think it&#8217;s a great deal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DealBreaker.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>DealBreaker.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Write-Offs: 08.14.07...&lt;/strong&gt;

$$$ The ABCs of Power Sitting at HBS [Banker&#039;s Ball] $$$ Cerberus: Den of Mini-Ballers or of Satan? [LoSC] $$$ Dream date with a high roller? [Craigslist]......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Write-Offs: 08.14.07&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>$$$ The ABCs of Power Sitting at HBS [Banker's Ball] $$$ Cerberus: Den of Mini-Ballers or of Satan? [LoSC] $$$ Dream date with a high roller? [Craigslist]&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: To The Hilt</title>
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		<dc:creator>To The Hilt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stevevergence&quot; is easily the best new word since Shakespeare invented &quot;subprime.&quot;

(Antony and Cleopatra, Act II, Scene V)


CLEOPATRA
The gods confound thee! dost thou hold there still?  
 
Messenger
Should I lie, madam?   

CLEOPATRA
O, I would thou didst,   
  So half my Egypt were subprime and made   
  A cistern for scaled snakes! Go, get thee hence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stevevergence&#8221; is easily the best new word since Shakespeare invented &#8220;subprime.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Antony and Cleopatra, Act II, Scene V)</p>
<p>CLEOPATRA<br />
The gods confound thee! dost thou hold there still?  </p>
<p>Messenger<br />
Should I lie, madam?   </p>
<p>CLEOPATRA<br />
O, I would thou didst,<br />
  So half my Egypt were subprime and made<br />
  A cistern for scaled snakes! Go, get thee hence</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Juggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Juggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It both does and doesn&#039;t.  It&#039;s important to note the Long or Short Investing Rule Conflict Rule of Investing which states:

&quot;When investing rules conflict, and because of non-sensicalness this will not be a non-recurring event, Long or Short goes with what is most correct, as determined by arbiter of correctness, justice and smarts, Long or Short.&quot;

In this case, you are adhering to the Satan&#039;s portfolio to an extent, as you are longer Feinberg&#039;s evil more or less.  But the backstop on our reasoning is the LoSIRCRoI rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It both does and doesn&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s important to note the Long or Short Investing Rule Conflict Rule of Investing which states:</p>
<p>&#8220;When investing rules conflict, and because of non-sensicalness this will not be a non-recurring event, Long or Short goes with what is most correct, as determined by arbiter of correctness, justice and smarts, Long or Short.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this case, you are adhering to the Satan&#8217;s portfolio to an extent, as you are longer Feinberg&#8217;s evil more or less.  But the backstop on our reasoning is the LoSIRCRoI rule.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but, doesnt this dovetail nicely with the Satan Portfolio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but, doesnt this dovetail nicely with the Satan Portfolio?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthless Gravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruthless Gravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the recommendation on Rattner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the recommendation on Rattner?</p>
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