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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some coworkers have had problems with BB shirts, i haven&#039;t

similar question - how often am i supposed to get my dress pants cleaned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some coworkers have had problems with BB shirts, i haven&#8217;t</p>
<p>similar question &#8211; how often am i supposed to get my dress pants cleaned?</p>
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		<title>By: Anal_yst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anal_yst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been told (from friends who&#039;ve had the same elbow blow-outs on BB shirts that&#039;ve actually taken them back) that when you just lump all your shirts into a pile @ the dry cleaner, they (rather unsurprisingly) treat them all the same, i.e. they press the non-iron shirts, which by the magic of modern chemistry, somehow decreases their structural integrity at key points.

Sounds like bullshit to me, but hell I only took AP Chem, apparently the schmuck working the counter @ the WTC Brooks Brothers went all the way to the advanced polymers and coatings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been told (from friends who&#8217;ve had the same elbow blow-outs on BB shirts that&#8217;ve actually taken them back) that when you just lump all your shirts into a pile @ the dry cleaner, they (rather unsurprisingly) treat them all the same, i.e. they press the non-iron shirts, which by the magic of modern chemistry, somehow decreases their structural integrity at key points.</p>
<p>Sounds like bullshit to me, but hell I only took AP Chem, apparently the schmuck working the counter @ the WTC Brooks Brothers went all the way to the advanced polymers and coatings.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a good dry cleaner at 79th and lex that has never ruined a shirt of mine and is likely no more expensive than yours.  they also pick up and deliver.  Probably not your neighborhood though.

tyrwhitts are the only british shirtmaker that does non-iron as far as i can tell.  it&#039;s always good to own a couple of such in case one is in middle america without a laundry but for value in my mind you can&#039;t beat the bergdorf sale.  i bought three shirts (two house line, one zegna) there in solids and straightforward patterns for a total of $350...would have been twice that at full price.  also a solid kiton tie for $79.  clearly some mini-ballers weren&#039;t mini-balling this summer.

CHJ

p.s. with regard to structural failures on your shirts i would suggest buying them to fit your arms and then getting the collar/shoulders/sides taken in.  This costs $20 at any tailor and will drastically prolong the life of your BB shirts and also make them look better, all for less than $100 total.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a good dry cleaner at 79th and lex that has never ruined a shirt of mine and is likely no more expensive than yours.  they also pick up and deliver.  Probably not your neighborhood though.</p>
<p>tyrwhitts are the only british shirtmaker that does non-iron as far as i can tell.  it&#8217;s always good to own a couple of such in case one is in middle america without a laundry but for value in my mind you can&#8217;t beat the bergdorf sale.  i bought three shirts (two house line, one zegna) there in solids and straightforward patterns for a total of $350&#8230;would have been twice that at full price.  also a solid kiton tie for $79.  clearly some mini-ballers weren&#8217;t mini-balling this summer.</p>
<p>CHJ</p>
<p>p.s. with regard to structural failures on your shirts i would suggest buying them to fit your arms and then getting the collar/shoulders/sides taken in.  This costs $20 at any tailor and will drastically prolong the life of your BB shirts and also make them look better, all for less than $100 total.</p>
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		<title>By: american bandersnatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>american bandersnatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concur.  I still grieve for some of my better shirts that met an untimely end with some hack handed dry cleaner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concur.  I still grieve for some of my better shirts that met an untimely end with some hack handed dry cleaner.</p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sophie&#039;s choice, hell.  And just as grave as the original example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sophie&#8217;s choice, hell.  And just as grave as the original example.</p>
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		<title>By: american bandersnatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>american bandersnatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Novice: 
If you have a choice between late or damaged, is it really a Hobson&#039;s Choice?
AB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Novice:<br />
If you have a choice between late or damaged, is it really a Hobson&#8217;s Choice?<br />
AB</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Siv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Siv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll agree this is a suitably radical solution to the problem :)

http://bp1.blogger.com/_VFnBjcV_syg/R-gFse9G0NI/AAAAAAAABxY/scNcSwBB_I0/s320/books_gair_jul07.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll agree this is a suitably radical solution to the problem <img src='http://longorshortcapital.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_VFnBjcV_syg/R-gFse9G0NI/AAAAAAAABxY/scNcSwBB_I0/s320/books_gair_jul07.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://bp1.blogger.com/_VFnBjcV_syg/R-gFse9G0NI/AAAAAAAABxY/scNcSwBB_I0/s320/books_gair_jul07.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Tickie: the cleaners are often a hobson&#039;s choice between several days late or damaged.  The in-sourcing is a good suggestion, but you can&#039;t always find girls who&#039;ll accept the &#039;You iron and I&#039;ll carry something heavy&#039; trade.  Do you have a third suggestion that doesn&#039;t involve moving my parents up here or drastically lowering what standards I have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Tickie: the cleaners are often a hobson&#8217;s choice between several days late or damaged.  The in-sourcing is a good suggestion, but you can&#8217;t always find girls who&#8217;ll accept the &#8216;You iron and I&#8217;ll carry something heavy&#8217; trade.  Do you have a third suggestion that doesn&#8217;t involve moving my parents up here or drastically lowering what standards I have?</p>
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		<title>By: No Tickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Tickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anal, you&#039;re wearing the wrong size shirt if that&#039;s happening with any regularity.  If you&#039;re already constrained to that size in BB by chest or neck fit requirements, then try another brand.

And yes, stop being a cheap/lazy fuck: don&#039;t buy no-iron and walk them across the street to the cleaners like a bloody adult.  Or marry a traditional type of girl, but don&#039;t get her pregnant until you&#039;re ready to have kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anal, you&#8217;re wearing the wrong size shirt if that&#8217;s happening with any regularity.  If you&#8217;re already constrained to that size in BB by chest or neck fit requirements, then try another brand.</p>
<p>And yes, stop being a cheap/lazy fuck: don&#8217;t buy no-iron and walk them across the street to the cleaners like a bloody adult.  Or marry a traditional type of girl, but don&#8217;t get her pregnant until you&#8217;re ready to have kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Novice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Novice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anal, BB slim fit is the only cheap, off the rack shirt for lazy fucks who are tall yet aren&#039;t built like Hank Paulson.  How do CT&#039;s shirts fit, and, echoing MN, are they any good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anal, BB slim fit is the only cheap, off the rack shirt for lazy fucks who are tall yet aren&#8217;t built like Hank Paulson.  How do CT&#8217;s shirts fit, and, echoing MN, are they any good?</p>
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		<title>By: Anal_yst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anal_yst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CT shirts def much better than Brooks Brothers non-iron, think I&#039;ve ripped at least 4 elbows out on those bad boys (yet continue to buy them, apparently I&#039;m a glutton for punishment and/or too lazy to walk across the street to the dry cleaners?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CT shirts def much better than Brooks Brothers non-iron, think I&#8217;ve ripped at least 4 elbows out on those bad boys (yet continue to buy them, apparently I&#8217;m a glutton for punishment and/or too lazy to walk across the street to the dry cleaners?)</p>
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		<title>By: Dsylexic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dsylexic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think the Mumbai CFA guys need to be disturbed .Plenty of cheap labor available in Manhanttan right now.I would like a reverse auction to sell this to the lowest bidder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think the Mumbai CFA guys need to be disturbed .Plenty of cheap labor available in Manhanttan right now.I would like a reverse auction to sell this to the lowest bidder</p>
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		<title>By: Hondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyrwhitt also has stores in Kuwait City and Singapore. Link to list of their stores:

http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/content.aspx?DepGrpCode=HOM&amp;CntCode=help_shops&amp;level1=Home&amp;level2=Help&amp;level3=Shops</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrwhitt also has stores in Kuwait City and Singapore. Link to list of their stores:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/content.aspx?DepGrpCode=HOM&amp;CntCode=help_shops&amp;level1=Home&amp;level2=Help&amp;level3=Shops" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctshirts.co.uk/content.aspx?DepGrpCode=HOM&amp;CntCode=help_shops&amp;level1=Home&amp;level2=Help&amp;level3=Shops</a></p>
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		<title>By: HelicalZz</title>
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		<dc:creator>HelicalZz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have it on good authority that a randomly packaged unmarked box presumably full of CT shirts, ties, and sundries were recently shipped to every member of congress and employees of the treasury.  The shipment was sent COD and stamped with &#039;do not open until recession clears&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have it on good authority that a randomly packaged unmarked box presumably full of CT shirts, ties, and sundries were recently shipped to every member of congress and employees of the treasury.  The shipment was sent COD and stamped with &#8216;do not open until recession clears&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: JCauto</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCauto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about shareholder value, but I do own one CT tie and three shirts, and they suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about shareholder value, but I do own one CT tie and three shirts, and they suck.</p>
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		<title>By: FX_rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>FX_rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious!  I own 10 CT shirts, but work in Minneapolis.  There&#039;s no CT shops here, so I&#039;m safe.  I guess all you Ivy League types are going to have to move here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious!  I own 10 CT shirts, but work in Minneapolis.  There&#8217;s no CT shops here, so I&#8217;m safe.  I guess all you Ivy League types are going to have to move here!</p>
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		<title>By: MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a StanChart on Jermyn Street and Barclays on the corner with Regent St.

Also, is Tyrwhitt actually a premium brand in the US? I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever walked past it without seeing some kind of special offer or promotion. TM Lewin too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a StanChart on Jermyn Street and Barclays on the corner with Regent St.</p>
<p>Also, is Tyrwhitt actually a premium brand in the US? I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever walked past it without seeing some kind of special offer or promotion. TM Lewin too.</p>
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		<title>By: Marton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does not compute for London - neither the Jermyn Street store nor the Bow Lane store are next to a large bank...
(Well, my firm is only 3 minutes from Charles Tyrwhitt, but you can&#039;t short it - it&#039;s privately held by a billionaire...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does not compute for London &#8211; neither the Jermyn Street store nor the Bow Lane store are next to a large bank&#8230;<br />
(Well, my firm is only 3 minutes from Charles Tyrwhitt, but you can&#8217;t short it &#8211; it&#8217;s privately held by a billionaire&#8230;)</p>
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